3D GUIDES AND REPAIR MANUALS

[ARF]

With deliveries progressing how will anyone be able to service and repair without the guides and repair manuals? Hopefully Ineos release the complete documentation soon.

 

[ECrider]

Aye, good point.

Anyone know when the first oil change is due? perhaps @Halliwell Jones Chester has the jive??

I for one will be targeting first 500 miles or so for a change of blood and filter.

 

[Eric]

Aye, good point.

Anyone know when the first oil change is due? perhaps @Halliwell Jones Chester has the jive??

I for one will be targeting first 500 miles or so for a change of blood and filter.

which brings the question what oil will @Halliwell Jones Chester be using for oil changes going forward?

 

[ECrider]

5W-30 dumbass or 5-40.

Was hoping Christian and Vera to look into it further.

I'll stick with the recommended one for a bit I guess, if can get the recommended one.

 

[DaveB]

With deliveries progressing how will anyone be able to service and repair without the guides and repair manuals? Hopefully Ineos release the complete documentation soon.

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I noticed @Halliwell Jones Chester had a 3D owners manual but didn't see a repair manual

 

[DaveB]

5W-30 dumbass or 5-40.

Was hoping Christian and Vera to look into it further.

I'll stick with the recommended one for a bit I guess, if can get the recommended one.

oh my god!

 

[ARF]

5W-30 dumbass or 5-40.

Was hoping Christian and Vera to look into it further.

I'll stick with the recommended one for a bit I guess, if can get the recommended one.

I think the owners manual had 0 or 5W30 (B57) & 0W20 (B58) but lets hope it uses less than the F33A in the Landcruiser 300.

 

[Jeremy996]

I have asked Gary Pearson when the workshop manual would be available and he said this week. We shall see.
(It is a major part of the USP for me).

 

[ARF]

I noticed @Halliwell Jones Chester had a 3D owners manual but didn't see a repair manual

3D owners manual? I've got the V1 of 2D version.

 

[Tinki]

Aye, good point.

Anyone know when the first oil change is due? perhaps @Halliwell Jones Chester has the jive??

I for one will be targeting first 500 miles or so for a change of blood and filter.

I think this is reasonable considering the break in period of 500 miles .

 

[Krabby]

I've read claims that there's no need for a quick oil change because of better manufacturing processes, better lubricants, etc. But I'm still a bit old school and intend on changing out around 500 miles too.

 

[Eric]

I've read claims that there's no need for a quick oil change because of better manufacturing processes, better lubricants, etc. But I'm still a bit old school and intend on changing out around 500 miles too.

It won't do it any harm, whether it doesn't need one or not.

 

[ARF]

update today from Ineos.

"Thank you very much for contacting INEOS Automotive.

I hope your day is going well,

Looking into your request, I can confirm that our 3D repair manual should be launching around the end of this year.

We know you might want to do some work yourself. So, we’ve designed and engineered the Grenadier to be easy to work on inside and out. To help you we’ll provide online repair manuals, with support from the technical team at INEOS HQ just a call or a click away.

Of course, a 21st century vehicle comes with electronics best left to our master technicians, but your Owner’s Handbook and online ‘How To’ guides can help you carry out your own simple mechanical maintenance. You’ll also find every component broken down on screen in the online interactive animated 3D repair manual.

Please be reassured that you will be communicated too once we launch our 3D repair manual."

 

[Wayneos]

update today from Ineos.


Looking into your request, I can confirm that our 3D repair manual should be launching around the end of this year.

Around the end of this year in Ineos speak is probably June next year for the announcement that the online manual is imminent and August for roll out.

 

[Jeremy996]

• Thanks Gary. Any idea when the online workshop manual will be available? I've asked about the locations for the footwell pre-wired outlets and I have been given copies of the mini-guide electrical picture. I want to add a dash-cam; if I do it myself, I can spend a day doing it, where an auto-electrician or workshop will be keen to complete in a couple of hours or less, to retain a profit margin. The access to workshop data was a massive part of the USP for me; I want to be able to maintain it now, (if I can be bothered, Chandlers are very tempting), but in 10-15-20 years time, when the usual main dealer wants to concentrate on the next shiny trinket.
• APR 25 Gary Pearson sent the following message at 1:13 PM
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  Gary Pearson 1:13 PM
  Hi Jeremy, I asked the team that has that on their list and the manual should go live this week It’s very much an important part for us as well so we’re keen to put it in your hands Gary
• Jeremy Edwards sent the following messages at 1:18 PM
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  Jeremy Edwards 1:18 PM
  Thanks Gary. Do you know how I will get access? Web Portal? Passwords? It’s a novel problem; getting data from any other manufacturer is a “no”, unless you become an agent and spend a vast fortune on dedicated kit.
• APR 28
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  Jeremy Edwards 11:34 AM
  Any news? I will have stuff to bolt to the Grenadier and would like to do it once, properly.
• MAY 7
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  Jeremy Edwards 9:38 PM
  Just to reflect on my previous message; any update? I have enquired via the website and no response at all from there.
• MAY 11Gary Pearson sent the following message at 7:43 PM
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  Gary Pearson 7:43 PM
  Hi Jeremy The main owners’ manual is available on the website now as a pdf. If you’re looking for the detailed CAD elements that we’ve referred to in previous Press then these will be released later as they will be finalised once all markets are live (America launches 2024). That said, if there are specific jobs you’re looking to do them let me know what they are and I’ll see if I can get them for you from Aftersales. I asked them today and they said they will have some parts ready for individual customers who need them. Best regards Gary
• Jeremy Edwards sent the following messages at 10:23 PM
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  Jeremy Edwards 10:23 PM
  Thanks Gary. The current concern is the power feed in the nearside footwell and the ease of whIch I can get a cable from the front windscreen top to the rear screen top and into the rear door, all for a front/rear dash-cam. If there is a trim sub-manual, that would be helpful, as I will need to lift/replace a few bits; knowing how they are fastened makes it less likely I will damage them.
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  Jeremy Edwards 10:35 PM
  Are you seriously holding the full release over until 2024? I suggest that is less than ideal and a significant departure from the previously published intentions. There are already early drivers of the released Grenadiers on the fora wanting to do an oil replacement and filter change, so I would prioritise the service procedures and the ability to order service consumables.
  
  
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• MAY 12
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  Jeremy Edwards 10:41 PM
  
  As I had a client meeting nearby, I visited Chandler's at lunchtime and asked about them installing my dashcam. They will come back to me, but at this point, they have no more clue than I do. I was alarmed that the workshop manual is not released to them either. I gather they will be talking to Lee on Monday for guidance."
  
  
  I am getting a little fed up about the response on the 3D manual, so above is the complete transcript of my LinkedIn messages between April 24th and today. Chandlers have not got back to me as Ineos have not got back to them.
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[CountyV8]

Im trying to get air/oil filters or even the part number or BMW part number .

 

[DCPU]

Thanks for sharing ~ it's not pretty reading the detail.

 

[Jeremy996]

I don't think I am being unreasonable yet; Chandlers came back to me with a £540+VAT estimate based on 6 hours for my dash-cam. Jason said they had received very little back from Ineos and it was frankly a guess.

I'm not sure I dare put my feelings into words for a few hours.

 

[DCPU]

Aye, good point.

Anyone know when the first oil change is due? perhaps @Halliwell Jones Chester has the jive??

I for one will be targeting first 500 miles or so for a change of blood and filter.

There's a screen in one of the menus - gives it in terms of mileage, calendar time and engine hours.

 

[ECrider]

There's a screen in one of the menus - gives it in terms of mileage, calendar time and engine hours.

tks. Engine hours is an interesting addition. Never had that on a car before. Tractors and forklifts, boats etc.