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When can we import the diesel Grenadier?

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Never. Or 2039 maybe. 2049 in the States.
 

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Always thought it was 15, but given you’re the Canadian I’ll defer to you. 🤣

Stateside it’s definitely 25 years, so not something to set one’s sights on.
 

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Always thought it was 15, but given you’re the Canadian I’ll defer to you. 🤣

Stateside it’s definitely 25 years, so not something to set one’s sights on.
Oh I don't know, given the thickness of the metal, I suspect Grenadiers from 2023 will still be around!
 

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Are they actually illegal? I thought INEOS just chose not to do it. Can you get diesel Toyotas etc?

I feel your pain, I have done around 3000 miles in the petrol and 20,000 in the diesel. I much prefer the diesel, and so does my wallet.
 

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The BMW diesel was never tested for emissions for the USA market by BMW and Ineos will not resubmit, so the only legal way in would be "display only", as a temporary import by a foreign tourist or wait 25 years!

In 25 years time, I will be 85 years old and, I suspect, about to give up driving or already done so, so My Grenadier may be up for offers.
 

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Always thought it was 15, but given you’re the Canadian I’ll defer to you. 🤣

Stateside it’s definitely 25 years, so not something to set one’s sights on.
Yeah, Transport Canada regs say 15 years old. "Hey Siri, remind me in 2038 to import a 2023 Diesel Grenadier." 🥺
 

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The BMW diesel was never tested for emissions for the USA market by BMW and Ineos will not resubmit, so the only legal way in would be "display only", as a temporary import by a foreign tourist or wait 25 years!

In 25 years time, I will be 85 years old and, I suspect, about to give up driving or already done so, so My Grenadier may be up for offers.
My 97 year old neighbour drives hi Hyundai every afternoon.
Not far and not fast but he changes into his stepping out clothes and goes for a drive.
Often only the 100 metres to the boat ramp, so he and all the other old fools can solve the world's problems.
 

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My 97 year old neighbour drives hi Hyundai every afternoon.
Not far and not fast but he changes into his stepping out clothes and goes for a drive.
Often only the 100 metres to the boat ramp, so he and all the other old fools can solve the world's problems.
And, where is this boat ramp?

I have some ideas these old codgers would surely like to discuss.
 

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And, where is this boat ramp?

I have some ideas these old codgers would surely like to discuss.
From what I can understand they have been meeting down there for 30-40 years.
Some have dropped off the perch and other youngsters have joined.
I am 61 and they refer to me as "young fella" so I am way to young to join them even if I wanted to. (I don't)
My place is in red
Neville 97 is in yellow
George 88 is blue
Geoffrey 79 is green
John 88 is pink
Not sure where the others live
Pretty sure they are all veterans of one war or another.


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This is the meeting place.
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Couldn't one theoretically put it in a container, say it's a gasoline, and hope for the best? Like what are the odds they'd look anyway? Or just import to Mexico and drive it across? I suppose the existing title or mfg certificate might be part of the shipping docs and some light fraud to edit those would quickly end with you in prison.
 

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Couldn't one theoretically put it in a container, say it's a gasoline, and hope for the best? Like what are the odds they'd look anyway? Or just import to Mexico and drive it across? I suppose the existing title or mfg certificate might be part of the shipping docs and some light fraud to edit those would quickly end with you in prison.
I seem to recall some people playing that game 10-15 years ago importing ROW Defenders to the US.

Didnt end well. CBP seized them and crushed the vehicles.
 

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Any idea when we can successfully import the diesels into North America, specifically Canada?
Just import the BMW diesel engine and retrofit to a North American Spec Grenadier. No emission tests for any vehicle in Florida.
 

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Just import the BMW diesel engine and retrofit to a North American Spec Grenadier. No emission tests for any vehicle in Florida.
Oooof, the consideration of DME and ECM coding, without having easy access to tools to recode them make this a potential nightmare.

Not to mention that you'd also need the transmission, and Ineos specific harnesses, etc
 
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