Kahn!

terdrocket said:

My Seecamp .32 is so small, you can't tell it's in your back pocket. Perfect every day carry.

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AngusMacG said:

The fact is that police are being told to stand down on certain infractions and then when an arrest is made either judges toss the case or prosecutors drop the case...

In just my neighborhood we have many homeless/drug addicts out panhandling and then in the evening they are out checking peoples vehicles. Luckily they aren't breaking windows but even with video surveillance evidence the Police will not make an arrest because the person "left the vehicle unlocked".

Crime is Crime...it does not have to be violent to be unlawful.

NY Bodega Owner

In addition you have cases like the Bodega owner in NY who defended himself but faced charges even though the original perpetrator did not...

When victims become the ones being charged then society is lost.

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Boston Boy said:

Crime is down, but fear sells., bigly. Local TV news motto is, "if it bleeds it leads" The more you watch Murdock's products, the less realistic sense you have of your personal danger. But whatever, let's go back to discussing a vehicle we dreamed about for over two years...

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[ Adam ] said:

Rampant paranoia caused by fear mongering of the conservative party & 24 hour news machine spewing easily regurgitated hyperbole. In my experience, this is especially noticed in rural and aged populations.


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Crime in the USA is statistically down significantly (property crime 60+%) over the last 20 years.

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See also: Violence and mental illness: an overview
"Members of the public exaggerate both the strength of the association between mental illness and violence and their own personal risk."

What the data says about crime in the U.S.

Federal statistics show dramatic declines in U.S. violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s.

www.pewresearch.org

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Dus10R said:

You quote main stream news media like they don’t have a narrative to keep their preferred political party in power. They report untruths or they don’t report the truth if it’s going to do harm to their political agenda. The same goes for our justice system. It prosecutes political enemies and defends criminals as long those criminals are of the correct political persuasion. Know what they say about statistics? If you torture data long enough you can make it say whatever you want. We now have a system very similar to the Socialist and communists of the past. Our propaganda machines are just as strong as theirs and our 3 letter institutions are now weaponized politically no better than their KGB, GRU, Stassi, etc You can read all the statements from the news you want or crime statistics but go into these large liberal cities in the United States and crime has massively increased. Mainly due to decriminalizing crime and handcuffing police to not do their jobs. Thank God we have our 2nd amendment.

Europe is screwed if they ever go to war. They have an unarmed citizenry that will get wiped out. The armed population of the Unites States is the largest standing army in the world if need be.

To think your governments will never become tyrannical or that another government cant take over, that is tyrannical, is to be ignorant of what history has to teach us. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.

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Stu_Barnes said:

Wow, this one was interesting read over a cup of tea* this morning.

I’m happy Kahn did this, not my taste but someone will love their version and enjoy driving it. For Kahn to sell one of these they first have to buy a vehicle, that equals sales and sales make a viable company (as long as recalls and warranty work don’t sink the boat) hopefully.

*Imported British tea grown in India drank by a British emigrant and immigrant to the USA, in a cup made in Italy. So not unlike the Grenadier really. Just need a Berliner as a snack at smoko and a chèvre chaud salad for lunch.

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