Going the extra mile

chrsbe · Dec 6, 2023

My next trip requires a lot of extra diesel on board. I need to carry 6 jerry cans and want to use the original metal version. 20L each.
But where should they go? All 6 are preferable on the outside of the car. I am thinking of buying the Letech leather. Does anyone know the price of this beauty?

Only five jerry cans left to store somewhere...

Is there a mount like this already on the market? Btw. that is the Rhino-Rack Defender solution.
Maybe two jerry cans would fit on each side. It is a lot of weight. What is the maximum load of the mounting tubes on the roof?

Only one left.
Maybe I store this one on the roof. I know this is the worst place to store heavy extra fuel. On the other hand, I can empty it on the first day. So most of the trip it will be light. A fair compromise.

Where would you put them?

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minidok · Dec 6, 2023

trobex · Dec 7, 2023

Can't mount fuel on the side of a vehicle in Australia when using gazetted roads - sadly. Good use of space though for fuel storage!

anand · Dec 7, 2023

The Exterior gear rail can hold ~40kg per panel; so holding two jerry's per side on the rear side panels should be within limits. The LeTech ladder would be fine to hold one; I think someone posted saying it was around €800. The remaining one (or several) on the roof would work as well.

Personally, I would prefer no more than 1 per side on the rear panels; and perhaps would investigate the possibility of placing one on the spare tire (not sure if a universal mount exists for this, but I know Jeep Wranglers use a similar mount). Additionally, if you didn't have to use the ladder, an additional Jerry can could be attached to the upper rungs on the ladder

chrsbe · Dec 7, 2023

trobex said:
Can't mount fuel on the side of a vehicle in Australia when using gazetted roads - sadly. Good use of space though for fuel storage!

I do not know if it is legal in europe. Maybe there are different regulations within the european boarders. Means every country has its own rules and regulations for all traffic related stuff. But there the network of gas stations is very dense. Meaning all extra canisters are empty and could be stored on the roof or even inside the car.

Sam · Dec 7, 2023

on the roof

interested to know where you're going that you'll need 120L additional fuel?

bigleonski · Dec 7, 2023

Sam said:
on the roof

interested to know where you're going that you'll need 120L additional fuel?

I carried 110L doing the Anne Beddell in a V8 petrol and used about 80 of it from memory. Otherwise the Canning?

Tinerfeño · Dec 7, 2023

chrsbe said:
I do not know if it is legal in europe.

As far as I know cargo may not exceed vehicle width in road use (most probably in entire EU).

Is it possible to store one extra jerry on the ladder?
Diesel is not as dangerous (flammable) as petrol so I could consider transporting it also inside the car. This may be illegal, don't know for sure, possibly depends on the quantity.
Empty containers are actually not less dangerous than full ones. Full doesn't contain much oxygen but the empty usually has fuel and air in an explosive mixture.

chrsbe · Dec 7, 2023

from a first quick and not very accurate analysis it could work within the boundaries of the side mirrors....

holdmybeer · Dec 7, 2023

chrsbe said:
from a first quick and not very accurate analysis it could work within the boundaries of the side mirrors....

You might be within the mirror boundaries but definitely obscuring what you can *see* with the side mirrors. :-/

Alternative ... I've seen some Jeep Wranglers carrying fuel cans just forward of the front doors. You could drill a can/cage mount or possibly use webbing and some hooks under the bonnet to rig a temporary cage/platform. Anyways, picture is worth a thousand words...

More in this thread: https://www.wranglerforum.com/threads/fine-points-about-carrying-external-fuel.1404530/

chrsbe · Dec 7, 2023

holdmybeer said:
You might be within the mirror boundaries but definitely obscuring what you can *see* with the side mirrors. :-/

Alternative ... I've seen some Jeep Wranglers carrying fuel cans just forward of the front doors. You could drill a can/cage mount or possibly use webbing and some hooks under the bonnet to rig a temporary cage/platform. Anyways, picture is worth a thousand words...
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More in this thread: https://www.wranglerforum.com/threads/fine-points-about-carrying-external-fuel.1404530/

There is not sufficient space in front of the door. But finally the Rails on the doors could make sense.

It is beautier from the side view i have to admit.

Tazzieman · Dec 7, 2023

Side mounted tanks are decidedly scary , and I'm not easily terrified!

chrsbe · Dec 7, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Side mounted tanks are decidedly scary , and I'm not easily terrified!

I agree. Scares me also.

Sam · Dec 8, 2023

bigleonski said:
I carried 110L doing the Anne Beddell in a V8 petrol and used about 80 of it from memory. Otherwise the Canning?

mate, he's Austrian... not Australian

Sam · Dec 8, 2023

@chrsbe is the 3D model available to download somewhere? that's so useful...

bigleonski · Dec 8, 2023

Sam said:
mate, he's Austrian... not Australian

Ooops.

Could be an interesting trip then.

chrsbe · Dec 8, 2023

bigleonski said:
Ooops.

Could be an interesting trip then.

Mozart not kangaroos

chrsbe · Dec 8, 2023

Sam said:
@chrsbe is the 3D model available to download somewhere? that's so useful...

I bought it. I think on turposquid. It is not cheap. Apparently it is modelled from pictures and not very accurate. Sorry cant make it available to download. It is not allowed in the license.

MrMike · Dec 8, 2023

trobex said:
Can't mount fuel on the side of a vehicle in Australia when using gazetted roads - sadly. Good use of space though for fuel storage!

You can, in approved containers, the side protrusions cannot be wider than 150mm from the outer most part of the vehicle not including the mirrors. There is no mention in any Dangerous Goods Regs which states it is not illegal to carry fuel on the side/top/rear/front of your vehicle. What constitutes "safe" is open to interpretation, but if it follows what is written below, it should be considered OK. Is it ideal? maybe not, is it dangerous? maybe so. Carrying 20lt supported by the grab rail and utility belt IMO is not ideal. But it is not illegal.

Arkaig · Dec 11, 2023

@chrsbe You might like to look at offerings from Bison Gear, who are based in Poland:

Molle Panels

Cannister Mount

I rather like their roof shelf:

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