Locking gas strut - large rear door

Shaky · Nov 5, 2023

I often have to park my IG on the side of a hill, with the vehicle oriented so that the large rear door is opened up the hill if that makes sense. Basically the weight of the door is too much for the OEM gas strut and it can’t hold the weight and just swings shut. One, it is dangerous if it comes back on someone and two, it is inconvenient trying to get stuff out of the back.

I know that you can get locking struts, that you twist the barrel and they lock in place, and I am exploring the possibility of changing mine over to an upgraded one that can take more weight better or a locking one.

I am in the UK and wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction of has any advice. I am certain they are out there it’s just getting the right replacement/upgrade. The best I can currently do is get the door to stay in place about a third open when parked sideways on the hill.

I have been informed that the Mitsubishi shogun/pajero has a twist lock strut on the back. So it should be do-able

AnD3rew · Nov 5, 2023

Shaky said:
I often have to park my IG on the side of a hill, with the vehicle oriented so that the large rear door is opened up the hill if that makes sense. Basically the weight of the door is too much for the OEM gas strut and it can’t hold the weight and just swings shut. One, it is dangerous if it comes back on someone and two, it is inconvenient trying to get stuff out of the back.

I know that you can get locking struts, that you twist the barrel and they lock in place, and I am exploring the possibility of changing mine over to an upgraded one that can take more weight better or a locking one.

I am in the UK and wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction of has any advice. I am certain they are out there it’s just getting the right replacement/upgrade. The best I can currently do is get the door to stay in place about a third open when parked sideways on the hill.

I have been informed that the Mitsubishi shogun/pajero has a twist lock strut on the back. So it should be do-able

Readily available just have to find the right size. This is an Australian supplier but I am sure you can find others.
https://gasspring.com.au/?gad=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI347Ry9qtggMVll8PAh2RKQnGEAAYASAAEgITV_D_BwE

DaBull · Nov 5, 2023

Shaky said:
I often have to park my IG on the side of a hill, with the vehicle oriented so that the large rear door is opened up the hill if that makes sense. Basically the weight of the door is too much for the OEM gas strut and it can’t hold the weight and just swings shut. One, it is dangerous if it comes back on someone and two, it is inconvenient trying to get stuff out of the back.

I know that you can get locking struts, that you twist the barrel and they lock in place, and I am exploring the possibility of changing mine over to an upgraded one that can take more weight better or a locking one.

I am in the UK and wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction of has any advice. I am certain they are out there it’s just getting the right replacement/upgrade. The best I can currently do is get the door to stay in place about a third open when parked sideways on the hill.

I have been informed that the Mitsubishi shogun/pajero has a twist lock strut on the back. So it should be do-able

Hi Shaky, My 2020 Defender has a rear door gas strut. You simply open the door to the position you want and then pull it back towards you approximately 1/2" or so and it stays in place without having to twist anything. If this is of interest to you let me know and I can take photos of it, see if it has a part number stamped on it and measure it too. Have not tried it on a large incline, however so far it has worked every time I have used it in the last 3 years. DaBull

Shaky · Nov 5, 2023

DaBull said:
Hi Shaky, My 2020 Defender has a rear door gas strut. You simply open the door to the position you want and then pull it back towards you approximately 1/2" or so and it stays in place without having to twist anything. If this is of interest to you let me know and I can take photos of it, see if it has a part number stamped on it and measure it too. Have not tried it on a large incline, however so far it has worked every time I have used it in the last 3 years. DaBull

Cheers Dabull, I will check mine to see if it moves forwards or backwards and locks. Worth a try.

Other than that I would love a part number. Hopefully track down the manufacturer and then cross reference to the Ineos part.

I suppose I will have to get my part number and then see if I can get an upgraded/locking one.

I suppose most people will never notice my problem but I park on the same hill once a week, so it’s getting on my nerves. I can’t always turn the vehicle so that the large door is on the other side and opening down hill. I need a block and tackle to close it then

Shaky · Nov 5, 2023

AnD3rew said:
Readily available just have to find the right size. This is an Australian supplier but I am sure you can find others.
https://gasspring.com.au/?gad=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI347Ry9qtggMVll8PAh2RKQnGEAAYASAAEgITV_D_BwE

Wished that company was in the UK. Very helpful site and loads of info.

AnD3rew · Nov 5, 2023

Shaky said:
Wished that company was in the UK. Very helpful site and loads of info.

Here’s another
https://www.selectlok.com.au/collec...MI347Ry9qtggMVll8PAh2RKQnGEAAYAyAAEgKl9fD_BwE

AnD3rew · Nov 5, 2023

And another
https://www.gasstrutaustralia.com.a...MI347Ry9qtggMVll8PAh2RKQnGEAAYAiAAEgKHOvD_BwE

Jeffrey · Nov 5, 2023

Keep a 12mm diameter wooden rod in the back that is cut the proper length to prop the door open.

DaBull · Nov 5, 2023

Shaky said:
Cheers Dabull, I will check mine to see if it moves forwards or backwards and locks. Worth a try.

Other than that I would love a part number. Hopefully track down the manufacturer and then cross reference to the Ineos part.

I suppose I will have to get my part number and then see if I can get an upgraded/locking one.

I suppose most people will never notice my problem but I park on the same hill once a week, so it’s getting on my nerves. I can’t always turn the vehicle so that the large door is on the other side and opening down hill. I need a block and tackle to close it then

Hi Shaky, I checked the rear door gas strut on my 2020 New Land Rover Defender.
Here's some numbers I found on the gas strut.
810729 189/20 HP11
L8B2-44200-AE
Note: The company web-name printed on the gas strut is stabilus.com
I measured the length of the gas strut closed and it is approximately 597mm or 23 1/2"
The overall length of the gas strut when fully opened is approximately 749mm or 29 1/2".
I tried the locking procedure and the way it works is you open the door to the desired opening amount and then jiggle the door back and forth just a bit and then the gas strut holds it in this position.
You can contact Land Rover to see what price they charge for one. Hope this is helpful.
DaBull

Highwayman · Nov 5, 2023

Shaky said:
I often have to park my IG on the side of a hill, with the vehicle oriented so that the large rear door is opened up the hill if that makes sense. Basically the weight of the door is too much for the OEM gas strut and it can’t hold the weight and just swings shut. One, it is dangerous if it comes back on someone and two, it is inconvenient trying to get stuff out of the back.

I know that you can get locking struts, that you twist the barrel and they lock in place, and I am exploring the possibility of changing mine over to an upgraded one that can take more weight better or a locking one.

I am in the UK and wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction of has any advice. I am certain they are out there it’s just getting the right replacement/upgrade. The best I can currently do is get the door to stay in place about a third open when parked sideways on the hill.

I have been informed that the Mitsubishi shogun/pajero has a twist lock strut on the back. So it should be do-able

What about something like this?

Hope this helps

NitroLift Locking Tube for 10mm Rod 300mm Stroke Gas Strut

Add a simple locking mechanism to your gas strut to ensure that your strut will stay extended even if the gas strut itself fails. Perfect for heavier applications or situation where safety is paramount.

www.sgs-engineering.com

Jeffrey · Nov 6, 2023

Ineos shows one already on a Grenadier and it has a INEOS sticker on it. It's in the new accessory catalog, though not listed as an accessory. Just shown in the pic here.

Shaky · Nov 6, 2023

Cheers guys, after I had posted here, I did come across the locking tubes and thought they might be a good solution. I will also have a look at the IG website again and see what they have got there.

@DaBull thanks for the info and time to look buddy. I will be checking that out as well. The forum hive mind is a great thing

CountyV8 · Nov 6, 2023

try this in UK https://camloc.com/uk/products/locking-gas-struts/

AMan · Nov 7, 2023

Shaky said:
I often have to park my IG on the side of a hill, with the vehicle oriented so that the large rear door is opened up the hill if that makes sense. Basically the weight of the door is too much for the OEM gas strut and it can’t hold the weight and just swings shut. One, it is dangerous if it comes back on someone and two, it is inconvenient trying to get stuff out of the back.

I know that you can get locking struts, that you twist the barrel and they lock in place, and I am exploring the possibility of changing mine over to an upgraded one that can take more weight better or a locking one.

I am in the UK and wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction of has any advice. I am certain they are out there it’s just getting the right replacement/upgrade. The best I can currently do is get the door to stay in place about a third open when parked sideways on the hill.

I have been informed that the Mitsubishi shogun/pajero has a twist lock strut on the back. So it should be do-able

This was happening to me. Then I got it checked with dealer and we identified the issue- there’s a small plastic grommet at the end of the strut where it meets the door mount. Mine wasn’t inserted and locked in to the strut ball correctly. As soon as it was removed and popped back in correctly, the door has been stable and holds as it should. Check your strut end- if you can see the ball and socket joint, the grommet is incorrectly placed. If you see only black plastic and nothing else, then get it checked by the dealer.

Shaky · May 22, 2024

I am going to bump this thread, now that there are a lot more Aussies and American owners out there.

Has anyone actually changed their back door gas strut, or seen an aftermarket one ?

I can find a part number on mine which is a pain, as I think it could be solved with some sort of aftermarket locking mech.

I have checked mine as Aman suggested and it is fitted correctly. The strut is just too weak to hold the door with the wheel when the vehicle is parked on a steep slope.

DenisM · May 22, 2024

If I open the door part way and hold it for 2-3 seconds in that position, the door stays there, quite stable, even on a reasonable slope. If I then start to close it however, it will slam shut if I let go.

Shaky · May 22, 2024

DenisM said:
If I open the door part way and hold it for 2-3 seconds in that position, the door stays there, quite stable, even on a reasonable slope. If I then start to close it however, it will slam shut if I let go.

That’s about as good as I can get it. Not the safest if someone touches it or the dog knocks it, as anyone or any body part in the way when that door crashes shut is having a bad day.

It’s happened already to me and I was facing into the vehicle and didn’t see the door coming….oh how I laughed and joked about that one.

Hence the reason I want a locking stay that I know is going nowhere when it’s been opened

[ Adam ] · May 22, 2024

CountyV8 · May 22, 2024

Shaky said:
That’s about as good as I can get it. Not the safest if someone touches it or the dog knocks it, as anyone or any body part in the way when that door crashes shut is having a bad day.

It’s happened already to me and I was facing into the vehicle and didn’t see the door coming….oh how I laughed and joked about that one.

Hence the reason I want a locking stay that I know is going nowhere when it’s been opened

Did you try these guys https://camloc.com/uk/products/locking-gas-struts/

Shaky · May 22, 2024

Not yet buddy.. I am clearly the only one who has a scenario where this affects them.

I need to find the ti e and see if I can get a match for one of the locking sleeves that go over the existing strut. Well it looks like they do.

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