The writing on the buttons in my current vehicle is so small I can't even read it with my reading glasses on.@Jonathan Hanson - nice to see you replying to the comments.
The point with regard to the lockers has been raised before, in terms of generally looking up at all the switches and trying to read the icons. It's a real issue, especially for anyone with varifocals and we know the Grenadier demographic is going to contain a high percentage. So there might be some challenge here but perhaps a silent majority nodding?
Ahh, okay. The test is to drive up a ramp with one front tire, until another tire lifts (usually the rear tire on the same side as the one going up the ramp). Then you do a quick calculation to get the Ramp Travel Index (RTI) score. This is an objective measure of articulation, and it tells you how much flex you can get out of the suspension before you lift a tire. The test will involve stuffing two of the tires up into the wheel well. This is not meant to be how you drive all the time, but it tells you what it is capable of handling before maxing out. In practice, vehicles with lots of suspension travel are capable of traversing very technical terrain, but - perhaps more importantly - in moderate technical terrain the body of the vehicle stays flat, while the four wheels go up and down. The ride is comfortable because the body is staying relatively level, and the suspension is doing all the work. Its also safer having all four tires in contact with the ground.
I’ll be instructing my co-driver and navigator on which buttons to press and when so I can keep my eyes on the track. She already has to look left for me at junctions as I have a stiff neck
Hey, I didn't think you were being rude or argumentative at all. I completely agree with your statement regarding debate. My response wasn't intended as defensive, just counterpoint. I'll have to dig up some of my review photos of Wranglers flexing and compare them. However, I strongly feel the Grenadier has a more comfortable rough-road ride than the Wrangler Unlimited.
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Yes I had to do that on an issue Ruger mini14 and a Remington pump action shotgun.
Ah good. I didn't want to offend. I enjoy the debate, and appreciate your counterpoints. I also have to believe you with regard to comfort off-road - I have sat in a Grenadier, but not while it is moving! You mentioned that your big test drive of the Jeep Rubicon was a number of years ago; the suspension on the Rubicon is vastly improved in the JL (2018 and later). I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on those. But frankly, I won't be surprised if the Grenadier rides better in bumpy terrain - Jeeps just aren't as well engineered or built as the Grenadier seems to be. I think Jeeps have become overpriced for what you get, and they belong in a lower price bracket. They used to be relatively cheap knock-about off-road convertibles, and that is the niche in which I think they belong.
Yup! Here is an example of how one independent reviewer uses the RTI to compare vehicles. It is, of course, not the only thing that matters - its just one variable, and an excellent RTI score is irrelevant if the vehicle can't carry or tow what you want.
Your point is well made with that photo. In mitigation we know that substantial changes have been made to that chassis/suspension setup.
That's a really good point. I had forgotten that Ineos has been revising the suspension.
In principle, you are right. But every time I drive my wife's Disco, I have to ask how to switch on the rear window wiper. In my Disco, the lever has completely different functions. Not to mention my Range Rover.
Not your fault. This happens if a manufacturer doen't stick to his own design. I call it then bad cockpit design. Or more precise: bad cockpit designers.
Yes, in principle I can confirm that. I had two W124s and a SLK 230 Kompressor. However, they did not install the foot-operated parking brake in all of their models.
Agree, something I am really missing in our R171.
