FOLDABLE TAILGATE CAMP TABLE

grenadierboy · Aug 22, 2022

The Grenadier website has little information concerning the optional camp table beyond a few words ("useful, robust table") & some pictures.

I have included it in my purchase as I think it's very well priced at A$440.

Nevertheless, does anyone know the dimensions of the table, it's weight & load carrying capacity?

The picture below seems to show 2 vertical slots in the metal at the top.

Could these be slots to insert legs for extra loads? If so, where are the legs?

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Tazzieman · Aug 22, 2022

grenadierboy said:
The picture below seems to show 2 vertical slots in the metal at the top.

Could these be slots to insert legs for extra loads? If so, where are the legs?

Just the closing mechanism by the look of it.
Pretty basic table.

Tazzieman · Aug 22, 2022

Watch this at around 20 mins for a better idea

grenadierboy · Aug 22, 2022

Thanks Tazzieman.

I also just found this this video

showing the installation of an aftermarket camp table for Toyota 76 from a company called Svnty6 (https://www.svnty6.com.au/)

Actually - Svnty6 have a lot of neat products.

Their camp tablecosts A$450, looks solid and seems about the same size as the Grenadier option. It can hold up to 10kg.

I assume the Grenadier table would be at least similar rated

Tazzieman · Aug 22, 2022

These are all pretty pricey IMO for what is a fairly simple DIY

DenisM · Aug 22, 2022

Tazzieman said:
These are all pretty pricey IMO for what is a fairly simple DIY

I'd agree with you that for what it is, it seems a lot of money. Trouble is, the market is very small by comparison to get the economies of scale required to reduce the retail cost... by way of example I got a bit of a shock recently when a long-standing mate of mine, bored with retirement(!), decided to make some 'widgets' (to do with industrial aircon fixtures) in his farm shed. Suffice to say they required some straightforward sheet metal bending as well as powder coating etc. . The contract cost to outsource the stamping/guillotining/powder coating...plus fastener costs, assembly time/packaging materials plus printing/product liability insurance/ changes to his farm insurance (he would be reclassified as a 'manufacturer') and a design tradmark.... transport to/from the farm....the standing costs worked out that he had to make 2,000 to break even at $143.50 ...then additional production would reduce the marginal cost to $85. (none of the foregoing included advertising and promotion costs...) He naively thought they could be produced for about $15 ea!! (Probably could if he outsourced the lot offshore!)

I've been toying with a folding design using scrounged laminated flooring offcuts glued to 12mm ply but hinged from the top so that the table surface is supported from underneath, which marginally improves the weight bearing capacity, eliminates the space constraint of the support cords (and their attendant 'stretch') in the above design... it will probably take me forever and cost who knows how much... a man has to have a hobby!

grenadierboy · Aug 22, 2022

My issue with wanting to know the load limit was also understanding the impact on the support wire/cord or whatever it is.

A small metal telescopic arm, hinged at the top of the table could pop out of a small plastic holding bracket and lock into place.

This could either take the place of the wire or act as additional support.

Tazzieman · Aug 22, 2022

Stainless braided wire would just about support your bodyweight. The potential weakness is in the attachment points.
Many ways to design a rear table. And btw Vitrabond offcuts (recycle centres - old signs) are quite useful - light and strong if built over a frame.

emax · Aug 22, 2022

I had posted this before, but it's worth a second hint. Interesting part starts at 23:07. Watch until the end.

Good solution, nice job, nice couple.

DaveB · Aug 22, 2022

emax said:
I had posted this before, but it's worth a second hint. Interesting part starts at 23:07. Watch until the end.

Good solution, nice job, nice couple.

Yes but the Ineos one is gray and has slots.

emax · Aug 22, 2022

Grey. ;-)

Slots. Hm. ...

The only slot I have is my build slot. Want to keep it, sorry.

DCPU · Aug 22, 2022

Tazzieman said:
These are all pretty pricey IMO for what is a fairly simple DIY

Plenty of cheaper options available from the normal places. Might just need a bit of modification to fit.

aleawol Multi-Purpose Tailgate Table Rear Foldable Back Shelf Compatible with Jeep Wrangler JK 2007-2017 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09GF3BVBL/?tag=globalgrena0b-20

Jump on some of the new Defender groups and there's plenty of reviews and fitting solutions.

Stu_Barnes · Aug 22, 2022

As a last minute question that I promised for today @grenadierboy lets see if INEOS reply to the request for some specs for the table.

Stu_Barnes · Aug 22, 2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561770153724956672

emax · Aug 22, 2022

I can only tell that it seemed a very solid solution at the A&A fair. All metal and quite robust.

DaveB · Aug 22, 2022

I am going to go with 5kg & 50kg

DCPU · Aug 22, 2022

DaveB said:
I am going to go with 5kg & 50kg

That sounds huge but then have a look at the inside of the door and the mounts I presume the table will pick on...they are rather large too.

Not so much a table but a built in stage.

DaveB · Aug 22, 2022

DCPU said:
That sounds huge but then have a look at the inside of the door and the mounts I presume the table will pick on...they are rather large too.

Not so much a table but a built in stage.

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I was working on the theory the door can take 100kgs (stated somewhere) and the spare only weighs 50kgs

DaveB · Aug 22, 2022

Here's a video of a guy using the fold down door table in a new defender. He also uses the special spare wheel storage compartment, although it seems to be more velcro security than lockable.
I love the way he uses the air in his spare tyre to pressurize his shower.

Tazzieman · Aug 22, 2022

DaveB said:
Here's a video of a guy using the fold down door table in a new defender. He also uses the special spare wheel storage compartment, although it seems to be more velcro security than lockable.
I love the way he uses the air in his spare tyre to pressurize his shower.

Ah that dude. Surprised he hasn't got a companion.

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